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  Masons/Illuminati

  by Black Man in

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  anyone know anything concrete about the masons & the illuminati?

  i've read some things here and there on the net but nothing outside of general ramblings?

  i've heard the typical, "they run the freeworld", "when you become one, you're one for life", "you'll have a great hookup if you're one of them" spiel.

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  Black Man

  Anyone know anything concrete about the Masons & The Illuminati? I've read some things here and there on the net but nothing outside of general ramblings? I've heard the typical, "they run the freeworld", "when you become one, you're one for life", "you'll have a great hookup if you're one of them" spiel. I know someone who is a Mason, but you can't get anything out of him about it. It's almost a deathly silence (even after drinking) whenever the topic comes up.

  I hear there are like 32 levels to become a full-fledged Mason but I really know nothing concrete beyond that outside of the fact that they throw great orgy parties and such. Anybody know anything about this group?
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  WT never stops SPECUL;ATING ON When THE END BE

  by JT in

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  below is an email---just another example in a long history of having bethel speakers speculate on issues and matters that will never be put into print- yet for the poor listeners they leave with a feeling of new light.

  we have all seen this type of info from the boys from bethel only to be told that it was the bro opinion and not the org- when the sh!t hit s the fan.

  the org is fully aware that they have men with 20-50 yrs of bethel service out there giving goof balls talks and building up the hope of the rank and file knowing full well it will never happen or be true.

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  Black Man

  JT:
  Man, ain't this the truth? Many of these Bethel speakers know good and well that what they say will be parotted, celebrated, and repeated by the rank-and-file and yet Bethel lets them keep jacking-off on people's hopes. Definitely has been a pet peeve of mine for years.
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  Paradise - I Think I'll Pass........

  by Black Man in

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  one thing that has always kinda ticked me off with the society depiction of paradise, is the completely bland, devoid of personality, stepford wives-ish look given to paradise pics in the publications over the years.

  peeps walkin' around smilin' for no reason, no attention given to a cultivation of technology, the arts, space exploration.

  there never seemed to be any point to paradise.

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  Black Man

  Good points Seeker......JW's are always speculating on eternity when in reality what they have nothing more to offer than a Harry Potter novel.......
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  We Change the Organization!

  by metatron in

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  who brings about moral change in the organization?.

  we, who are called "apostates", "opposers" and the .

  "embittered".

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  Black Man

  Kudos to you Met, you've hit the nail on the head on this one. In fact, I was gonna start a thread on this myself. New light, change in organizational procedures, Bethel adjustments; MOST of that has been instituted by those deemed as dissenters.

  Items like the "1914 generation" and etc., was already started by many of the friends who used to have those "maverick" watchtower/bible studies in Bethel rooms back in the late 70's/early 80's. That "new light" originated from that. Isn't that something....Apostates are usually the ones to cause new light to shine.
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  Michael Jackson still a JW!

  by ShaunaC in

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  last night on one of the entertainment magazines shows they said that michael jackson just gave an interview to tv guide.

  in it he says he is still a jw and still goes door to door in disguise.

  i had heard a rumour recently that he still donated a lot of money to the society but had no clue he still claimed to be one.

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  MJ is NOT a JW. In fact the only active witness in that family is Rebbie who is a pioneer and her hubby is an elder. The mother, Katherine, still professes to be a JW but is irregular/inactive......
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  What should the WTBS do?!?!

  by LDH in

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  well guys sorry i haven't participated much lately, i've been really busy.

  but, i do have a question that i would really appreciate all of your input on.. it is no secret that young people are leaving jws faster and faster.

  it is no secret that most jws are disappointed, and hurt by lack of prophecy fulfillment.. so here's what i was thinking: i'm going to post some very personal thoughts on what *i* think they need to do in order to stop the loss of almost 50,000 disfellowshipped and probably 4x that to inactivity.

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  Black Man

  This is a good-ass topic. This goes back to the top...
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  Hello Bethel! Are You Listening? Wake Up!

  by Room 215 in

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  hello bethel,.

  by now it's clear to all observers that the organization is running out of steam, especially in the developned nations, and no amount of hyped-up propaganda about ``quick-build'' kingdom halls, standing up to the nazis, lifetime experiences of pioneers, etc., etc.

  can rectify.. what's needed urgently:.

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  Metatron:
  Yeah...it would be intersting if a spotlight can be shown on their money, but it'll never happen. The Society are SHREWD financial specialists. They got monies coming in from the stock market, r & f donations, bonds, real estate and etc., etc.

  It's something that for an organization that strong-armed their flock NOT to invest in worldly riches, they have enough capital to fund a small country.
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  back to basics

  by cnn77 in

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  as soeone raised in the truth my whole life i am struggling with a basic doctrinal issue.

  the issue has to do with universal sovreignty and the ransom sacrifice.

  let me try to illustrate by way of analogy:.

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  Black Man

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  FYI- Understanding HIgh Control Groups better

  by JT in

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  fyi.

  some info you may want to put into your files when it comes to dealing with those involved in high control groups like wt-.

  recently we have all seen how many on the net have sent tons of info to their family and friends on the un issue .

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  Sending this back up...............
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  JW Culture has Changed!

  by Amazing in

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  in the late 1960s, i became a jw.

  there was a sense of intellectual freedom and more openness to discuss various spiritual and even some social topics.

  there was reliance on watch tower literature as an authority, but still the soiciety seem to confine its concerns and left the rest up to individual jws to decide.

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  Actually, the monitoring was done in a more "official" capacity on the circuit and district levels. If you were a brother trying to climb the "ladder" you best believe you needed to stick to the script...especially on the district levels. If you didn't you could expect to be "clowned" and not used for awhile.

  I remember this one brother who was a dynamic speaker and strayed a little from the manuscript on the district and as a result he sat for awhile. Brothers in the Chairman's office chastised him and he didn't have a part on the DA for many years. He was black-balled for awhile. Monitoring was mos-def more rigid on the district level. Circuit level afforded SOME leeway unless you got up there an cracked one too many jokes or deviated extremely from the manuscript or outline.

  Of course if you were a GB, Bethel heavy, or DO you'd be exempt from most of the monitoring BS.